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Started by Teslawriter at 01-24-2006 6:35 PM. Topic has 3 replies.
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   01-24-2006, 6:35 PM
Teslawriter

Joined on 01-15-2005
Near NYC
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Plagerism Re: Song Lyrics in Story

Hi all:

I've read a number of Steven King's novels, where he begins a chapter with a verse or two from some very popular rock songs.  I've always assumed that he either got permission to do this because he's famous, or he paid for the right, because he's (now) rich, or both.  In all cases, I believe, Mr. King did credit the songs' authors.

Are we allowed to quote song lyrics in a story, as long as we attribute them to their author, even if we didn't ask permission?

Is there a character-limit or other quantity limit?

How should the attribution be handled:
      a) immediately, in a parenthetical note,
      b) in a footnote or endnote, or
      c) is it okay to mention, in the text introducing the quote, who the author is?

On a related issue:  if radio stations have to pay royalties to bands, or to the bands' record publishers (?), how come bar bands, playing cover songs, all across America most weekend nights, don't have to pay royalties?

Thanks in advance.

Peter


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   01-27-2006, 9:30 AM
Blackdog

Joined on 08-21-2005
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Re: Plagerism Re: Song Lyrics in Story
This question about song lyrics comes up often. While I have no idea about bands playing songs in bars, i do know that you are running into dangerous territory quoting popular songs in your writing. You do need to get permission and usually purchase the rights, which can be very expensive not to mention time consuming. Furthermore, if you are an unknown, it is doubtful anyone will even give your request the time of day.

I'm not a reader of Stephen King, however, with a writer of his popularity song writers may just appreciate the advertising. Also, he has plenty of people to do the deal working, while he focuses on his writing. For the average Joe/Josephine, it just ain't worth the effort.

I did have a story I wrote around a song line before I had learned about all this. I re-worked it with some dum-de-dums and misunderstood lines––it happens all the time, but kept just enough so that the very popular Musak tune was identifiable,and I managed to get it published.

Nannette Croce
zine writer
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   05-10-2007, 12:26 AM
Nanlisa

Joined on 05-10-2007
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Re: Plagerism Re: Song Lyrics in Story

I just wrote a short story set in the summer of 1967 in Los Angeles. It was about a happily married couple who go out to dinner to celebrate their 20th wedding anniversary. I was going to use the lyrics "Come on baby, light my fire (from the Doors' song), but then I decided not to.  You definitely have to have permission to use song lyrics in fiction. It was best that I just simply kept it out.

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   03-16-2009, 11:39 AM
Farson

Joined on 03-16-2009
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Re: Plagerism Re: Song Lyrics in Story
 Nanlisa wrote:

You definitely have to have permission to use song lyrics in fiction.

Hmm, that seems quite silly to me, afterall it's not like the actual music will feature. Now I'll have to make a mental note to never put any song lyrics into my work.

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