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10-01-2005, 7:03 AM
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ancient mariner
Joined on 03-30-2005
England
Posts 10
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Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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I see literally hundreds of people each day at the Shoppette / Gas Station where I work. I am desperate to record their attitudes, features, mannerisms, responses, etc., for future character building. The problem is, I am so busy serving them, I don’t have time to really observe, let alone take notes.
My micro-cassette or any other type of recorder, would not be appreciated and would almost certainly be highly controversial; as I am being paid to take care of customers as efficiently and politely as possible, there is no time available for me to say, “Just let me dash-off a couple of notes.”
I have had extremely limited success by, at the end of my shift, sitting in my car and jotting down notes regarding the last two or three customers of the day. Obviously, I go to great lengths to make it difficult for anyone to be able to tie the notes to any actual individual, living or dead.
I feel so terribly frustrated to be exposed to such a ‘mother-lode’ of character personalities, and I cannot get a license to mine.
I will consider any suggestions! However, please keep in mind that my boss is paying me to serve customers, so, I should not do anything that could be interpreted as ‘not doing my job.’ And more importantly, it must in no way give the customers cause to complain or feel uncomfortable.
An Anxious Ancient Mariner …………………. In foiled musing mode
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10-01-2005, 5:50 PM
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Vac-aham
Joined on 09-26-2005
Posts 2
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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Ancient Mariner, I very well can sympatize with your anxiety and frustration in this situation. Let's see if I also can be of any assistance to you in trying to help lifting a tip of the foil.
I wonder in what ways you've practised observing your customers so your writing may benefit from it. Do you have a specific 'goal' in mind when you observe - specific characteristics you're looking for, for example? From your post it sounds like you're eager to soak up all -any- information you can, leaving you... well, drowning.
So, maybe, it is not really a case of using the right means of recording that fit the situation, but
rather a case of using the right mode of observing?
Maybe, instead of trying to swallow the stream of the 'mother-lode' all at once all together it would serve you better to narrow down the amount of what you're trying to take in?
Maybe it would be helpful to narrow it down by setting assignements for yourself? Go after specific demonstrations of behaviour or manifestations of characteristics over a certain amount of time (say a day or a week), or focus on a situation and observe how different people act to it . Use the quantity of the source you have at hand - gather a variety of examples to a certain 'theme'. And play with it. Make a ‘theme’ more specific or broaden it’s scope - explore it’s possibilities.
Maybe this way you can make enough observations without violating the high standards of service you are bound to keep, and store them long enough to record them whenever you can?
Maybe this way you can go around the limitations the nature and demands your job bring with it, but still use the wonderful opportunities it holds?
Does this make any sense to you?
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10-01-2005, 5:56 PM
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jmar2
Joined on 08-30-2005
southwest Virginia
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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I realize you probably have a life after work, but what about staying
after your shift for an hour and just observing with a note pad?
Or coming in early and watching the customers whilst you have a cup of
tea?
As memory keys during your shift, maybe a pocket full of 3/5
cards. Assign each customer a number, maybe odds for women, evens
for men. You probably can't do it for every customer, but when
there is a lull between customers, you could then write brief note on
card:
"11:04 #8 reminds me of Aunty Carol, has funny uptone at end of each sentence."
Then at end of day, the cards would help you focus your memories and expand the characters in detail.
Hope that helps,
John
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11-11-2005, 10:51 PM
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The Sharpened Quill
Joined on 11-12-2005
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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The first two postings pegged my ideas exactly. I've rarely been struck with someone quirky enough to be in my musings but I have had the occasional opportunity to be in your shoes. Well, almost literally.
I worked at a shoe store for more than a year of my young adult life and one frequent customer was an elderly lady I suspected of being extremely lonely for I saw her the same time each day about three times a week. The girls and I nicknamed her "Aunt Agatha". The odd thing about her was that she was very near-sighted, had a different hair color every week in that clown like poof of hers and a squished, hawk-like nose that seemed to touch her upper lip when you looked down at an angle (which wasn't hard since she was maybe five foot solid).
So, in addition to the first two, I'd think you should also look for "regulars". Find those that stop by that look familiar and soon, you'll find that you remember them better each time. Not only will this open a way for a little chit chat while you ring them up and learn something new about them each time possibly, you'll get a chance to do closer observation since the rest of the stuff is an old hat by then. Try and find something new about your regulars each time: an involuntary action, a habit, jewelry, tattoos, the way they talk or pronounce a word.
Good luck!
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11-12-2005, 10:26 AM
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ancient mariner
Joined on 03-30-2005
England
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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Well, what do you know! Seems great minds really do think alike.
Recently, I had begun to concentrate on a few of the regulars, who have some very distinct habits, mannerisms and features. It is my intent to embellish these traits to provide believable characters; and I may even have-a-go at seeing what sort of men and women I can create, and then send them on a mission or drop them into a situation.
Of course these days my problem is writing and staying awake; even when driving I have to stop and get out of the car and walk around a bit, just to make sure I stay alert.
We were already one person down at the gas station due to an unfilled vacancy, but three weeks ago one of the guys had to return to the States on Emergency Leave. We still have no idea when or if he intends to come back. Couple this with caring for my wife and son and it rapidly fills a day.
This also means that at the end of each shift, instead of just having a tired body, I have a ‘very tired’ body. And that makes it virtually impossible to sit, for any length of time, without dozing off.
But thanks to your wise counselling I will go to bed tonight,
A less confused and more optimistic….. Ancient Mariner
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01-14-2006, 1:50 PM
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Keith C.
Joined on 12-27-2005
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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I think that all of the suggestions that you were given were great ones. I understand about TIME to jot down/record notes and still trying to keep up with the day to day responsibilities. I assume that you get a break during your work hours, so this may enable you to write down some notes, paragraphs, or pages (when Stephen King started out writing, he would even write on his lunch hour, in the back storage room, at the store he worked). I don't know if you'd be able to, but would you be able to review the recorded images of the security camera(s) and jot down notes? This may even give you a different perspective of an individual(s). Good luck to you! - Keith C.
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03-15-2006, 5:56 AM
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maddie
Joined on 01-13-2006
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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i have found myself frustrated with this very thing and here's what i
finally did. i let go of trying to record a grip of notes during my
day. instead, as soon as i was relieved of my duties i would sit and
clear my mind of clutter grabbing hold of those thoughts and images
that stood out. many times it was simply an emotion that a person
evoked and nothing else. from there a character can emerge, even if it
is distant from the original inspiration. hope this blather helped!
smiles
~maddie
~shine on...
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03-15-2006, 2:03 PM
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bobkalsey
Joined on 09-29-2003
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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I wonder if what sticks in your mind with the passing of time might be
what is really important and useful about these characters
anyway. Perhaps you needn't obsess over getting down the details,
but let them percolate in your mind and then write about them
later. More confidence in the power of your memory (and, if you
are writing fiction, your imagination), rather than stressing about
reporting "reality" in all its details might serve you well.
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03-15-2006, 2:16 PM
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dogzilla30
Joined on 11-19-2005
Posts 28
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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I keep a writing journal in my purse where I can write things I observe or overhear during the course of my day. I work at a desk job so I'm not "in the face" of people I usually observe. During lunch break or at the end of the day I'll take a few minutes to write/jot down some things. Maybe you can keep a journal or notepad in your car where you can record things you remember before you leave for the day? It would be a definite break between the work day and the rest of the time with your family.
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12-30-2006, 10:40 AM
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Mousetrap
Joined on 12-30-2006
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Re: Looking for Ideas and Suggestions
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Right. There are many varied ways of finding, collecting and storing ideas. They are all around you basically. Some I know have suggested a few already but I am sure you won't mind me sticking my orr in this. There are newspapers, magazines[also excellent for research purposes, the agony columns in magazines, also those makeover programmes on television. Sometimes on Channel 4 in this country, we have Grand Designs where he poses possble conflict situations - what if. The most important two words that should spark off ideas. In fact in 1994, I spent a week at Fenn Farm where I had the good opportunity to meet Sally Worboyes who wrote about the Kent Hop Gatherers. If the clients have families with young children and there are hitches, look between the lines. You be surprised what you can cook up in terms of ideas. Now the problem of keeping them. Ah yes, well that is easy enough. Have you a good ring binder, one of those big ones because believe it or not, you will fill it up as easy as can be. Either go out and buy one or ask at your work place if they are getting rid of any -surprising what people throw away you know and somethings are not in bad condition. You will also need twelve dividers, one representing each month, Jan-December. Don't worry about putting the year. Now go home and switch on your PC. For each month, use Word and Clip Art for this, perhaps treat yourself to a clipart disk. Type out the month then create an appropriate symbol then if you have some ideas for the current month[always have your dictaphone or notebook at hand] Click on to Word and type out your ideas. Believe me, sometimes one's scribble can let one down - there is nothing more infuriating that having an idea you cannot make sense of. Make a point of writing your ideas for the month you are in in Word then print them out at the end. Before long, you will have more than you know what to do with. In short, you will have a compendium or Diary of Ideas. I hope that this has helped you. Don't watch television in a vegetated state - be proactive or you might miss something. Well good luck and hope this has helped you. Have a brilliant New Year and make this suggestion a New Year Resolution Regards Mousetrap
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