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Self-publishing, POD and e-publishing

Started by gypsy_agent at 07-25-2005 12:30 AM. Topic has 6 replies.
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   07-25-2005, 12:30 AM
gypsy_agent

Joined on 07-18-2005
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I'm looking to have a sci-fi novel published and have begun researching publishers. Recently I came across two types of ePublishers. One is strictly an ePublisher. The other type traditionally publishes books and also sells these books as eBooks. Both websites operate like a traditional publisher. The contract, the advance, etc.

Becuase I'm, uhm, a geek for lack of a better term, I support the technology. I believe that paperless books aren't in the far future. However, based on research I recently did on a term paper, I also discovered there is general concensus it's a long time off because supporters feel publishing houses are determined to own it or kill it. As a writer, I'm still leaning toward traditional publishing becuase it just doesn't seem to have the backing (or paycheck) that traditional publishing can currently offer. Yet, it does seem to be a little easier to get a book published by an ePublisher and that in now way means the books are of a less caliber, it just means that eBooks cost so much less and are small (500 to a CD-R in most cases). And I've thought about how difficult it would be to publicize an eBook -- and how does one autograph an eBook? [:)] But I stress, this is strictly opinion.

I'm curious about what others opinions are about ePublishing.
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   07-25-2005, 10:37 AM
Jamesaritchie

Joined on 04-11-2002
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It's a long way off because the vast majority of readers still prefer to read paper books. I don't see this changing anytime soon. Publishers are in the business of giving the public what it wants, and there's no indication at all the more than a tiny percentage of the pubic wants paperless books.

This may change someday when paperless books have all the advantages of paper books, but this simply isn't the case at present.

Publishers don't have to own it or kill it, but if it happens, they will own it simply because the one thing the public will always wnat is the best writers in the buesiness, and the best writers in the business follow the money. Paperless books simply will not in any way change the fact that the reading public will still want Stephen King, John Grisham, Tom Clancy, J. K. Rowling, etc.

Good or bad, nothing succeeds unless in some way, shape, or form, it generates a profit, and where there's profit there's big business, and where there's big business, writers will follow.

Right now, at least, e-book are almost always of lower quality than print books, simply because good writers go to traditional publishing houses where they get paid good money. Traditional publishes get the cream, and always will as long as they pay the most money. It's easier to get published this way because the money is very low, and the competition is far less.

There certainly is a future for paperless books, but that future will come when there's a profit in, and it will come bearing the same names the top selling print books bear right now. Technology doesn;t change teh caliber of the writing, nor the public's taste.

But right now, darned few people prefer paperless books of any kind, and I agree. I read e-books when I have to, but there's seldom any pleasure in it. It may be, when someone comes up with a read I can read as easily as a print book, and one that's as cheap as a paperback, one that I can drop in the bathtub, throw away when I'm on vacation and my hands are full, one that I can forget and leave at the airport or on the beach without worrying about it, I may change my mind.

But for right now, I find print books superior in every way, and I find print writers superior in every way.
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   07-26-2005, 1:16 AM
gypsy_agent

Joined on 07-18-2005
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Jamesaritchie
This may change someday when paperless books have all the advantages of paper books

Can you give exampes, or pro/cons, of one medium over the other?

QUOTE: Good or bad, nothing succeeds unless in some way, shape, or form, it generates a profit, and where there's profit there's big business, and where there's big business, writers will follow.

I would disagree that something cannot succeed without a profit, unless you're speaking a 0 profit. I do believe that even open source or charities must exist with an income. But if we're talking the kind of profits that traditional publishers bring in annually, I wouldn't necessarily agree that epublishing couldn't thrive without that. It does however, depend on backing, and here I foresee a problem. If the store chains, in this case online, aren't there to back the epublishing houses, they can't survive except as a vanity press or as a self run business (such as a small publishing house for an author who neither wants to pay a vanity press or go through a traditional publisher). It certainly is a discussion with lots of 'what if's and potential late-night, coffee drinking debates! [^]

QUOTE: Right now, at least, e-book are almost always of lower quality than print books, simply because good writers go to traditional publishing houses where they get paid good money. Traditional publishes get the cream, and always will as long as they pay the most money. It's easier to get published this way because the money is very low, and the competition is far less.

I wish to rebuttal this remark based on research I've recently been conducting on the topic. Any ebook I've downloaded for free is either very bad, or as palatable as lima beans (no offense to those who enjoy lima bean!!). Ones I've purchased from a certain large .com store we all know, and from two smaller presses, have been very good. They weren't of the same caliber as J.K. Rowling, Dean Koontz or Douglas Adams, but I finished them and enjoyed my read.

I feel that the debate has two differnt directions that have influened our varying opinions about the qualit of ebooks:

  • Perhaps the quality of ebooks simply falls under the old saying, 'you get what you pay for.' In which case, that doesn't leave much room for discussion becuase it's ever true

  • The ebooks that are published and free, are made by amateurs who have not honed their craft. Those that are puchased have been screened by an editorial staff and publishers who are qualified in their positions, but perhaps not the best, but like traditional publishers, they are striving to find decent writers. Also, unlike traditional publishers, they are able to publish more when they aren't dealing with printing costs, etc.


What are your feelings on this?
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   07-26-2005, 10:00 PM
veinglory

Joined on 12-06-2004
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RE: ePublishing
Epublishing is a useful second string if you can't get paper-published. But even as an e-published author, I prefer print books. EBook readers are clunky, low res, and awkward--they are hard to read. A light, high contrast reading nterface will make all the difference but I figure it's at least a decade off.
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   07-29-2005, 6:42 PM
WordedWrite

Joined on 06-09-2005
Peoria, AZ
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QUOTE: Originally posted by gypsy_agent


I'm curious about what others opinions are about ePublishing.


Hello gypsy_agent!

I think every avenue has both advantages and disadvantages, and some lend themselves better to some uses than others.

I just published a nonfiction book and have also made it available as an e-book (through two different companies). It's a short "how-to" manual, so I thought there might be readers would want to take their time with it, so the book might be good for them, and then there might be people who have gotten a last-minute assignment and need to know what to do right now—this latter group can download the file while working on their project (I'm thinking information may be more important than print quality in an emergency).

I think there are rules against saying the names of people and products here, so I'm not going to list my title (although, now that I'm thinking about it, I could post an announcement, couldn't I?). If you're interested, click on the link in my signature to go to my web site. You'll see that I have two links on the second page—one for ordering the book and another for ordering the e-book as a downloadable file to either a printer or a computer. Another nice feature of the e-book is that it cost me absolutely nothing—I'm not kidding. Zero dollars, and just an hour or so to learn how to upload my book file (I'm not a techie, so this would probably take you no time at all!). The free company will also deliver a hard-copy in book form if you'd like that option (also free to you)!

I think these new technologies are amazing. There are always trade-offs, but if you match the method of publishing with your goals, I think you can find something that makes you happy.

Good luck!


Writing that gets results!
http://www.wordedwrite.com; http://www.bigbadboss.com; http://www.lulu.com/content/531796
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   08-02-2005, 4:09 AM
wilf

Joined on 07-29-2005
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Hi

My personal opinion on the whole e-Book subject is that, at this stage, I as a regular book purchaser would not generally consider purchasing e-Books, I do prefer the feel of real paper... I agree that this is likely to be the case for some time, however, there are a large number of organisations investing heavily in this technology so there is obviously at least some (even if it is in the future) market.

I agree that you can get an e-Book published for free, and this could be a useful way to showcase your work, or build a following of readers. However, I think that by choice today I would go with the print medium supported by e-Books. Perhaps for this reason you should consider a publisher who can support both mediums.

Wilf
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   08-04-2005, 5:50 PM
StopDropandRoll

Joined on 08-04-2005
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RE: ePublishing
gypsy_agent

The quality of ebooks are not as bad as some people have made it sound. You have to review the ePublisher first before submitting your manuscript. Some are better than others and do an excellent job of editing your work. Also, many ePublisher do Print on Demand, allowing you and your readers to have a hard copy. Some ePublishers have crossed over to traditional publishing as well. Go to the following links and check out these ePublishers and make your own decision.

www.wings-press.com
www.twilighttimesbooks.com
www.mundania.com
www.hardshell.com
www.pendulumpress.com
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