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Started by RonPrice at 07-23-2005 8:15 AM. Topic has 2 replies.
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   07-23-2005, 8:15 AM
RonPrice


Joined on 08-02-2004
George Town Tasmania
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Post Icon Borrowing, Other People's Ideas, Plagiarism
BORROWING[:)]

Right from the start of rock ‘n roll in the mid-1950s musical artists copied technique, style, words, whole songs. Plagiarism was simply not an issue.1 That is also true of my poetic idiom. While most of what I write is mine, still I borrow a great deal as well: ideas, concepts, techniques, styles, phrases, philosophies. When I read Einstein who wrote that he had only one idea that was all his in his life, I can appreciate that perspective. In the end, it seems to me, what is uniquely mine in my poetry is: my experience, my way of conveying my experience, indeed the overall specificity of my thousands of poems. This overall poetic work, in toto, the way I put it together, it’s quantity and quality is all mine. It’s value, well, that is another question.-Ron Price with thanks to 1ABC TV, “John Lennon’s Jutebox” 9:30-10:30 p.m., November 8th 2004.[}:)]

What makes this oeuvre mine
is a voice, a body, a set of words
which flow through me but often
not from me, are often not mine:
they are the sons and daughters
of life’s longing for itself.
They tell of a life lived,
like everyone else under
a blue radiance, like millions
of others: born into a family,
schooled, married, kids, jobbed,
retired, three squares a day,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.[:D]

But the pages of my book,
while looking the same as others
have a unique set of marks, words
on a page, words that make the me
that is me----me.[;)]

Ron Price
November 8th 2004[8)]


Ron Price is a retired teacher, aged 63. He taught for 30 years in primary, secondary and post-secondary schools. He lives with his wife, Chris, in Tasmania. Their 3 children are now(2007) aged: 41, 36 and 29. Ron moved to Australia from Canada in 1971. He has written three books since 1999. They are all available on the internet for free. Ron has been a member of the Baha’i Faith since 1959 and now lives in Australia’s oldest town, George Town Tasmania founded in 1804.


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   07-24-2005, 12:41 PM
Jamesaritchie

Joined on 04-11-2002
Posts 3,588
Post Icon RE: Borrowing, Other People's Ideas, Plagiarism
QUOTE: Originally posted by RonPrice

BORROWING[:)]

Right from the start of rock ‘n roll in the mid-1950s musical artists copied technique, style, words, whole songs. Plagiarism was simply not an issue.1 That is also true of my poetic idiom. While most of what I write is mine, still I borrow a great deal as well: ideas, concepts, techniques, styles, phrases, philosophies. When I read Einstein who wrote that he had only one idea that was all his in his life, I can appreciate that perspective. In the end, it seems to me, what is uniquely mine in my poetry is: my experience, my way of conveying my experience, indeed the overall specificity of my thousands of poems. This overall poetic work, in toto, the way I put it together, it’s quantity and quality is all mine. It’s value, well, that is another question.-Ron Price with thanks to 1ABC TV, “John Lennon’s Jutebox” 9:30-10:30 p.m., November 8th 2004.[}:)]

What makes this oeuvre mine
is a voice, a body, a set of words
which flow through me but often
not from me, are often not mine:
they are the sons and daughters
of life’s longing for itself.
They tell of a life lived,
like everyone else under
a blue radiance, like millions
of others: born into a family,
schooled, married, kids, jobbed,
retired, three squares a day,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.[:D]

But the pages of my book,
while looking the same as others
have a unique set of marks, words
on a page, words that make the me
that is me----me.[;)]

Ron Price
November 8th 2004[8)]




I don't think they copies whole songs, and plagiarism was just as big an issue in teh 50's as it is today, especially in music. Technique and style have always been fair game. Neither are copyrighted. Ideas aren't copyrighted, and neither are concepts.

But you can't copy actual phrases, story, and characters. Not today, and not in the 50's.
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