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Started by ReneeQ at 04-22-2005 10:27 PM. Topic has 6 replies.
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   04-22-2005, 10:27 PM
ReneeQ

Joined on 04-22-2005
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Post Icon Plagiarism question regarding a Quote.
I am hoping some of the experienced writers in the forum can answer a question for me. I am writing a novel set in 5th Century Ireland. There is a 6th Century saint, St. Columcille, who has the following statement attributed to him: "Christ is my druid now." If I were to have a character in my novel use that line, is that plagiarism?
Thank you in advance for any help you can give this writer!
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   04-23-2005, 10:50 AM
mammamaia

Joined on 10-22-2002
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RE: Plagiarism question regarding a Quote.
since the person being quoted has been dead for centuries, and not merely the 70 years required to shift something into the public domain, it's surely not 'plagiarism'! ;-)

besides which, it may not even be from a piece of writing... and even if it was, it couldn't have been copyrighted way back in the 6th century, as there was no such thing then...

plagiarism is the unauthorized use of copyrighted work... in the us, a copyright now lasts the lifetime of the originator plus 70 years... in most cases... it's a similar situation in the uk, though there are some exceptions, one of the most notable being jm barrie's 'peter pan'... and, in the us, the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension ...

hope this lays your fears to rest...

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   04-23-2005, 6:07 PM
ReneeQ

Joined on 04-22-2005
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RE: Plagiarism question regarding a Quote.
Thank you, Maia.
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   05-07-2005, 2:42 AM
Cyberbob

Joined on 05-07-2005
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Post Icon RE: Plagiarism question regarding a Quote.
Exactly. If they've been dead for a number of years, you're fine. If they're alive or recently deceased, you might still be okay, but it's more of a cause to worry.
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   05-29-2005, 11:20 AM
Andreya


Joined on 10-15-2004
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RE: Plagiarism question regarding a Quote.
But it's better if you add a note - footnote or a note at the end, explaining where you got the original quote

Someone else might be interested and go read that other book too!!
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   05-29-2005, 11:37 AM
mammamaia

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RE: Plagiarism question regarding a Quote.
not really, andreya... not in a novel, in any case... and that's what this poster is asking about... anyway, why should a novelist want to tout someone else's book?

the only reference to the source should be within the text itself, such as referring to who originally said it... such as:

The monk replied, "For me, as St. Columcille said, 'Christ is my druid now.' "

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   06-07-2005, 6:36 PM
catsndogs

Joined on 08-10-2004
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RE: Plagiarism question regarding a Quote.
The odds of you being accused of plagarism from the 1500's is extremely small. but if you want to play it better safe than sorry, go with mammamaia's example. "The Monk replied, 'For me, as St. Columcille...' "
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