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Started by knight_six at 07-13-2005 7:44 AM. Topic has 25 replies.
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   07-13-2005, 7:44 AM
knight_six

Joined on 07-13-2005
Baghdad, Iraq
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Post Icon RE: Hiring a Publicist for a POD-published Book
I've read all of the posts - quite a variety of response. I had a goal to write a book, and I'm happy that I did.

I never had a goal to sell it. However, once it was finished, I decided to look into the publishing aspect. I did a great deal of homework, looking into 'traditional' publishing vs POD vs do it yourself (DIY) on the internet. I didn't like the idea of signing away rights thru a traditional publisher, and didn't have the time for DIY - so POD seemed interesting. Vanity? I guess so. It's my work, period. It won't appeal to everyone, no book does - regardless of who prints or touts it. I sent excerpts to people I know nation-wide - who I trust to tell me my work sucks. Their responses were sufficiently positive enough for me to put their actual replies in my book's front matter for all to see.

The POD publisher I chose had been 'secret shopped' by a nationally known magazine, and was selected as the best among five tested. After review (including the Better Business Bureau), I went with them. I did all my own cover design work, and used my own editor. The POD publisher was fast in their responses and I'm happy with the big-brand name outlets they use. I'm also happy about the fact I can pursue marketing of my book on my own without penalty, in addition to the contract I have with my POD who markets thru their own distributors. I note a hint of disparagement in one of two of the posts above. At the moment, I don't know a single traditional publisher that would allow an Author to pursue marketing outside of their contract.

I will admit I'm not happy about the per-book pricing. I wouldn't pay that much for my own work - but was not consulted on how much they intended to charge. I wasn't happy with how they 'sized' the book either. I suspect they oversized it to get a bigger bookshelf foot print for grabbing attention as well as cutting down on the number of pages. For the record, I selected the smallest commission program they have in order for sellers to discount the book as deeply as possible.

They did offer me pretty deep discounts as the Author, sufficient enough to make the per-book cost the same as if I had printed them thru a commercial printer - but that was a special deal. I have an old school buddy who owns his own printing company, and will use him in furture if I need quantity printing.

Within weeks of completing the above, I was mobilized. I'm writing you from Baghdad, Iraq at the moment. I can't very well attend signings or do the kind of traveling needed in praise of my work. That's what got me to shopping for a publicist, and I suggest that due to my particular cicumstances, I'll need one who can handle a somewhat unique situation. I'm restricted to phone and/or written interviews for the time being, but I'm handing out free copies of my book to anyone here who would like to have one - word of mouth costs nothing and is pretty good advertising.

There's actually been a number of people who have asked that I consider a sequel. In shopping for Publicists I found this forum. Writing for me isn't a "business" - I have no need of income derived from those efforts. My story won't challenge Hemmingway or Clancy - it wasn't intended to. If you make your living thru the written word and have enjoyed some success with that, then I'm happy for you. You should be open in sharing your success methods with others, without charge.

For others, there's the high-dollar, high pressure traditional way of going, buying expensive endorsements from national shills, paying big bucks for one-line ads in national media...allowing traditional publishers to edit and distort your work in the hopes of being placed on a dubious "Best Seller" list. I recently picked up all ten of one publisher's Best Seller paperbacks on a display, and found no interest in any one of them. They were glitzy, slick, highly touted by so-called big names (who were paid for their endorsements - who I had never heard of - and wondered if they had actually read the book), and would not have purchased if you offered to buy it for me. All of them followed an identical pattern, used well-worn themes and excessively violent content. Apparently I'm supposed to buy one based on nothing more than their recommendation, regardless of what was inside. No thanks.

I'm happy that I had a goal to write a book and did it. Maybe I'll write a sequel. The two books I've sold have made my son and my mother very happy!

Take a look: http://knight6.blogspot.com
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   07-13-2005, 11:10 AM
WordedWrite

Joined on 06-09-2005
Peoria, AZ
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Post Icon RE: Hiring a Publicist for a POD-published Book
Hello knight_six!

I'm so glad you jumped in here and added such a thoughtful response and different perspective to this discussion! I read your blog and I love the way you "speak" as well as your sense of humor! Good luck with "L" and stay safe in Baghdad!

Marilyn

PS: Are you from Arizona? I'm in Peoria.

Writing that gets results!
http://www.wordedwrite.com; http://www.bigbadboss.com; http://www.lulu.com/content/531796
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   07-17-2005, 4:59 PM
dwebster

Joined on 07-09-2005
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RE: Hiring a Publicist for a POD-published Book
I have purchased two POD books recently and the quality of the books and the writing was good. There have been success stories of POD, self-published or vanity type books that have gone on to be huge sellers. One example is Eragon, a fantastic book that was self published and promoted before being picked up by Knopf. If your writing is sound you will find an audience but you do have to go out there and publicize and market. Unless you're Nicholas Sparks or Stephen King, you have to do most of your marketing.


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   07-20-2005, 11:48 AM
Grannie2

Joined on 12-18-2004
USA
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RE: Hiring a Publicist for a POD-published Book
All of the responses on this forum were very interesting as well as being tremendously helpful. I especially enjoyed what knight-six had to say; it seemed to wrap up the controversy of POD publishing. Basically it is what the individual aurthor has time and money for. "To each his own". I heard that qoute somewhere.

I can't really agree with the term 'vanity' publishing in relation to POD publishing. I think it should be called an 'achievement' in ones love for writing. A well-known aurthor is not an 'achiever', he is a 'succeeder'. An aurthor who has a lifelong goal to improve his writing to someday publish is the 'achiever', so I lean toward a POD publisher for the 'achiever'. I don't see 'vanity' as having anything to do with achievement.

Caryl Muzzey
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   08-10-2005, 11:35 AM
fayebuchholz

Joined on 08-09-2005
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RE: Hiring a Publicist for a POD-published Book
Wow. I'm a new member and have to admit it was fun reading the above posts regarding PODs. I enjoy a good debate. Having finished my first manuscript this year, and having received several rejection letters from top agents and publishers, I can see how going with a POD looks tempting. I've heard that John Grisham started that way.
But I guess I'm VAIN enough to keep thinking that my story is good enough to keep trying the traditional way. LOL

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   08-26-2007, 7:22 PM
Clearwater Lady


Joined on 06-22-2007
San Francisco
Posts 21
Re: Hiring a Publicist for a POD-published Book
I'm so new at this publising a novel (although I self-published a how to do  book which sold in many ways, mostly through workshop, classes and lectures I offered.  In my recent research at workshops, lectures etc of writers published in publishing houses & self, is don't hire a publicist. Plus even with a publisher taking you on, it is up to you to really get out there and market it. Unless you wrote a best seller, they don't budget your marketing. I'm going with a local person who helps me through the process and will do a bit of marketing for me. I met him and looked over the books he's published. Try to hear other authors talk about how they managed publicity and marketing. And, I'm disappointment in the remarks of someone who wrote "the truth" about unless it's someone you know or sleeping with - remark. This forum has always been supportive and sorry to say, that was a "snide" remark and not helpful. One can tell the truth without that way of talking.  Sounds petty and reflective on one's anger and disappointment in the acknowledgement for his/her own work.

Clearwater Lady
juneahern.com
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