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Started by SusanG50 at 04-10-2004 6:58 PM. Topic has 12 replies.
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   04-10-2004, 6:58 PM
SusanG50

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Post Icon Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
After working hard and polishing and spell and grammar checking and fact checking the perfect 500 or 750 or 1000 words for the assigned topic an editor manages to introduce grammatical or factual errors or just plain strange stuff.

Example: I interviewed a prize-winning playwrite who bemoaned the fact that he still hadn't had a play done locally (i.e. prophet without honor in his own country). In the article she managed to add that he had had his plays produced in Philadelphia, California, etc... and locally.

I won't give more specifics because other editors at that publication still hand me off to her occasionally.
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   04-12-2004, 7:11 PM
Dominique

Joined on 10-11-2003
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Post Icon RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
Yup...that's happened to me as well.

Examples I can remember...having an editor sub "status" for "statice" (the plant) in one article about a florist...another time, the editor changed my copy to have a restaurant serving "humus" instead of "hummus".

At one point (partly in self defense), I volunteered to do a last quickie proof on production night for the weekly newspapers I wrote for...I managed to find and change the copyeditor's "Roads" (as in scholar) back to the writer's original and correct "Rhodes" before the paper hit the presses in one instance. In another article about a big AIDS walk, I managed to find and change a writer's urging people to "grab your closet friends" to participate in the walk to "grab your closest friends" (turns out that one -was- the writer's mistake and the copyeditor hadn't found it before I did the last proof).

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   04-13-2004, 6:11 AM
Blueridge

Joined on 09-30-2003
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RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
Aack! These sound serious. Especially your, Dominique. Don't think I'd want to have dinner at that restaurant that served humus.

So, what's a poor writer to do? I assume it isn't considered common practice or protocol for a writer to mop up after the editor. Does a writer usually have one last chance to see her work before it goes to press?
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   04-13-2004, 3:36 PM
SusanG50

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RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing - and the aftermath..
Any practical advice regarding a mis-edited article that you had hoped to use as a clip?
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   04-14-2004, 5:14 PM
Dominique

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Post Icon RE: RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
QUOTE: Originally posted by Blueridge

Aack!...Don't think I'd want to have dinner at that restaurant that served humus.



It gets even better...the name of the place (it was a coffeehouse) was Muddee Waters..Really!

The editor in that case apologized to me for that slipup...blaming the ever-popular spell check.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Blueridge
So, what's a poor writer to do? I assume it isn't considered common practice or protocol for a writer to mop up after the editor. Does a writer usually have one last chance to see her work before it goes to press?


I think it's more often that the writer does not have one last chance to see work before it goes to press at newspapers...but when they asked for someone who wanted to work a few hours each production night to proofread, I jumped at the chance. I actually did it more to learn how the paper was put together and see what else was going on because, as a freelancer, I normally didn't spend a lot of time in the office during the week.

For a couple of articles i did for a business magazine, I did get the chance to see the edited text before the articles went to press. In that case, I was able to change their "tiny" back to my original "tony" (when talking about a rather swish suburb).
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   07-15-2004, 4:19 AM
LinnAnn

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RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
Would sticky notes help, explaining that the word/words given was/were the intended word/words?

If you'd ever read our local paper you would scream. I'm not a pro, but I find tons of errors and they drive me nuts.

Love, LinnAnn
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   08-22-2004, 10:34 AM
gypsyfoot

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Although I'm no copy editor, there is a term used when a word or phrase should not be changed: STET. You could try adding that to your copy for those unusual turns of phrase that might look like a bulls eye to an editor. Unfortunately, there are so many ways to go wrong with the English language that errors are almost certain, especially in newspapers, because there is often so little turnaround time. I recall a cutline under a photo of several dignitaries handing a check to some FFA kids following the annual Junior Livestock Auction at our county fair -- the reporter identified the event as the Livestalk Auction, and the editor (who once wrote about an actor's "roll") didn't know the difference between stalk and stock; the mistake had the newsroom quietly convulsed the next day.

Don't depend on some mythical all-seeing editor -- they are few and far between. When you find one, glean all you can. I have learned a great deal from the woman who does the final edit on my books, but have had to take a walk to calm down when seeing what other editors have done in the first hackfest.
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   08-22-2004, 11:27 AM
mammamaia

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RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
since 'stet' is an editor's mark, i don't see how it would help for the writer to use it in work being sent to an editor... actually, i think you'd be risking bringing down the editor's wrath on your head for presuming to do his/her work...

as writers, we're all at the mercy of editors... just as screenwriters have to turn their brainchildren over to directors to wreck, you have to turn yours over to editors... unless you're a big money-maker for that publication, i'm afraid you've nowhere to turn... if you are a valued asset, you can ask for another editor to be assigned to your work... short of that, you'll just have to accept that life's often unfair...

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   08-22-2004, 2:01 PM
Jamesaritchie

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RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
Yeah, if you're going to put "STET" on your work, you'd better have some clout, else the editor not only ignores it, he may well take it as a challenge.
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   08-22-2004, 2:04 PM
Jamesaritchie

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Post Icon RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
QUOTE: Originally posted by SusanG50

After working hard and polishing and spell and grammar checking and fact checking the perfect 500 or 750 or 1000 words for the assigned topic an editor manages to introduce grammatical or factual errors or just plain strange stuff.

Example: I interviewed a prize-winning playwrite who bemoaned the fact that he still hadn't had a play done locally (i.e. prophet without honor in his own country). In the article she managed to add that he had had his plays produced in Philadelphia, California, etc... and locally.

I won't give more specifics because other editors at that publication still hand me off to her occasionally.



It happens, and the best thing you can do is point it out to an editor's higher ups. Editors like this usually don't last long. Other types of errors are easier to overlook, and I seldom blame the editor for them. Such as "playwrite." It should be "playwright."

These are the errors that somehow bother me most; when I make a typo or use the wrong word and no one catches it. I have only myself to blame.
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   08-22-2004, 2:50 PM
rosspar

Joined on 04-12-2004
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RE: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
Oops!!!!!!
After 35 years in the newspaper and televison fields, I can still recall my initial impression of my first city editor at the Columbia SC State-Record...
HE WAS GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it took a century or so to realize the man with the blue pencil and paste pot (pardon me for showing my age) was someone who simply had another person's mistakes built into his blue pencil. As the years rolled by, I moved from the photo lab to the newsroom as police reporter, general assignment reporter and eventually to my happiest days as outdoor editor for a 100,000 daily.
I also began to scan my columns and other material for what I considered errors. I would then slip over to my editors desk and point out the difference between a bass player, a bass boat and a base runner. Done correctly, it usually earned me a thank you, not a rebuke.
When a magazine editor sends me an advance copy of one of my articles, I read it for accuracy, and, if warranted, pick up the phone to spread little oil while asking for a correction.
I've had editors suggest that if I was so good I should apply for his/her job, and found that avenue of revenue gathering was closed. Others either made the changes for which I asked, or advised me of the reason it was too late to make changes. Those often became the editors who didn't hesistate to call me on the phone to question my useage or accuracy if it didn't sound right to them.
BUT--------------
If you don't know your editor, tread easy. If you think you have a better rapport with one, make him/her look better by gently offering a correction before a reader melts his keyboard grousing about an inadvertent error.
As James A has gently (usually) inferred in the past, to be considered a professional, act like a professional. I can't think of much James has offered that can top that on my personal list of regular mental corrections.
You want to be a writer? Start writing!!!!!! It works for me.

Ross



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   07-15-2006, 8:40 AM
athenasurf

Joined on 04-12-2006
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Re: Pet Peeve? Mis-editing
When one of my short stories ended up in a local literary journal with editing mistakes, I volunteered to copy edit the next edition.  The editor gave me the "final" copy that was to be submitted to the publisher and I returned to her an eight-page chart of further edits. She thanked me (in front of the whole staff). If you have a skill or talent, offer it where you can.  It will help you and someone else.  
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